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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 14, 2011 11:57:36 GMT
Woody Allen "Eternity is very long, especially towards the end." Eh?
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Post by abacus9900 on Mar 14, 2011 12:05:02 GMT
You see, this is the conundrum for me. If time does come to an end then how did our universe come about? If you take the view that there must have been something existing prior to our universe then presumably that would have been subject to entropy, wouldn't it? So if whatever came before eventually reached entropy and time stopped then how could anything have developed, since there was no time and you need time to make things happen!
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Post by bikerman on Apr 1, 2011 2:04:20 GMT
LOL. Intelligent? Nah, just the normal misunderstanding of a simple principle, coupled to the ignorant assumption that Cox somehow is incapable of answering this 'point', instead of the understanding that it isn't a point and doesn't need addressing by a professional physicist.
However, since I'm not, I'll explain it in simple words for you. Entropy increases in any SYSTEM ON AVERAGE. The apparent increase in organisation that you witness is a result of life. Life is dependant on energy from the sun. The energy is fairly coherent (organised) UNTIL it is absorbed and used by life, when it becomes much more entropic. When considered as a SYSTEM, rather than individual elements, total entropy increases.
Lehniger puts it quite succinctly:
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Post by naymissus on Apr 7, 2011 6:47:39 GMT
LOL. Intelligent? Nah, just the normal misunderstanding of a simple principle, coupled to the ignorant assumption that Cox somehow is incapable of answering this 'point', instead of the understanding that it isn't a point and doesn't need addressing by a professional physicist. However, since I'm not, I'll explain it in simple words for you. Entropy increases in any SYSTEM ON AVERAGE. The apparent increase in organisation that you witness is a result of life. Life is dependant on energy from the sun. The energy is fairly coherent (organised) UNTIL it is absorbed and used by life, when it becomes much more entropic. When considered as a SYSTEM, rather than individual elements, total entropy increases. Lehniger puts it quite succinctly: You seem a sweet little soul bikerman. Do you know someone called STA perchance? All this entropy as disorder-to-order stuff is so simple really! Dunno why Boltzman committed suicide over it!
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